tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315762734312621987.post675540533827855403..comments2023-09-29T13:29:43.787+02:00Comments on the Lifestream chronicles: Swedish DemocratsYeonnihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18136059777182142884noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315762734312621987.post-72560128857410321802012-02-07T02:40:50.581+01:002012-02-07T02:40:50.581+01:00I understood your position, I believe, and I agree...I understood your position, I believe, and I agree with it. They bring up situations that you would wish other, sensible, proper parties would spend more time on.<br /><br />Related: I invite you to watch some randomly chosen debates between Jimmy Åkesson and virtually any other political figure. There are several on youtube, go check. Most of them refused to take the debate seriously, which just made Åkesson seem like a great debater and a very balanced and sensible individual. And then there was Gudrun Schyman, who made him look like a bumbling child. It was awesome.Nallenonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523921766435281451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315762734312621987.post-20373169259110388542012-02-05T04:00:39.482+01:002012-02-05T04:00:39.482+01:00I get the feeling people think I agree with SD som...I get the feeling people think I agree with SD somehow, in which case I guess I gave N a too weak voice. My point was pretty much that I don't agree with either side, and that the pamphlet was very cleverly constructed which I appreciate and admire, whatever their intentions were. They do bring up problems that I'd like for the other parties to address seriously however. The way they are treated is not the way a democratic society should treat democratically chosen representatives, and it invites shadow games and pushes the line of the democratic process in a way that rather favor the more aggressive of them. As for whether it's Sweden Democrats or Swedish Democrats - I don't give a f, I don't think this would be mistaken for an official document. I translated the whole quotes so I'm pretty fucked right there anyway.Yeonnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136059777182142884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315762734312621987.post-52218076042460699872012-02-01T08:35:44.539+01:002012-02-01T08:35:44.539+01:00I hate to nitpick, but shouldn't the translati...I hate to nitpick, but shouldn't the translation be "Sweden Democrats" rather than "Swedish Democrats"? <br /><br />Grammar nazi, away!Riklurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08615536940608922069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315762734312621987.post-17080076606657243622012-01-31T10:03:50.189+01:002012-01-31T10:03:50.189+01:00I agree that SD sometimes have good points, but us...I agree that SD sometimes have good points, but usually very bad solutions to the issues they're pointing out. And if they argue their point, which they usually don't, they use utterly simplified rhetorics that's easy to agree with, easy to get all emotional about but really hard to find much grounds for in reality. But that's just last time I looked.<br /><br />http://theshadowolf.blogspot.com/2010/09/politik-och-sd.html<br /><br />I know it's out of date and also admitt that it's just as simplified as I accuse SD of being, sry ;)<br /><br />Talking about commercials; do you remember the one SD made about benefits? Where an elderly person with a rollator had to have a race for the money against a woman with a pram dressed in a long black burca or whatever it's called? That's exactly the kind of rhetorics SD are using: very clear and easy to agree with the wrongness about the situation- the problem is that the situation don't even exist in reality. The different benefits don't come from the same money (or at least, that's what the other politicans are saying) and yet SD would like to implye that those darn muslims are coming here stealing the money from our elders. Even if it were true it's not a very sofisticated politics, is it? Pitting two groups against each other? Easy rhetoric, yes, but hardly constructive. Though, as you say, the other parties should USE this instead of being childish and freeze them out. If they talked about it and that way pointed out the flaws in SD's rhetoric they wouldn't gain so much sympathy as they do by being martyrs.<br /><br />But I agree that we have big problems about segregation and criminality and so on. It's just that I don't think one should blame a group but rather admitt that it's a structural problem in our society and change the structure. SD also say that, but at the same time usually come up with solutions that target the groups suffering the problems instead of the problems themselves. <br /><br />Trying to be objective here but don't know if I pull it off ^^ShadoWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726838276118194557noreply@blogger.com